Art and Theology Podcast: An Interview with Dr. Reg Grant, Part III

In this podcast, I speak with Dr. Reg Grant, professor at Dallas
Theological Seminary, published novelist, actor, and apparently
tap-dancer. We discuss a healthy artistic life and the formation and
transformation of the artist.

Dr. Grant says something that reminds me of C.S. Lewis, who, in Mere Christianity, said we must lose ourselves and be in Christ, but instead of this making us all the same, "the more truly ourselves we become…There is so much of Him that millions and millions of ‘little Christs,’ all different, will still be too few to express Him fully" (p. 189). The only real personalities exist in God, but we can’t go to him in order to pursue ourselves. Our real selves come when we’re looking for him. "Look for yourself, and you will find in the long run only hatred, loneliness, despair, rage, ruin, and decay. But look for Christ and you will find Him, and with Him everything else thrown in" (p. 190).

I think this applies to our art. The fullness of our creativity can only be found in Christ. This is not to say that unbelievers can’t make beautiful art, but that as Christians fully pursuing Christ, we find our art fuller, more able to express him. But if I pursue Christ for the sake of my art, I’ll find only emptiness.

This podcast segment is 7 minutes.



Art and Theology Podcast: An Interview with Dr. Reg Grant, Part II

In this podcast, I speak with Dr. Reg Grant, professor at Dallas
Theological Seminary, published novelist, actor, and apparently
tap-dancer. In this part, we continue our conversation about art and
truth.

The video is just over 6 minutes.

You can see Part I here.



Art and Theology Podcast: An Interview with Dr. Reg Grant, Part 1

In this podcast, I speak with Dr. Reg Grant, professor at Dallas
Theological Seminary, published novelist, actor, and apparently tap-dancer. In this part, Reg shares how two films affected his life (good timing with November’s Artuality on movies!), and we begin our discussion of
the artist’s pursuit of truth.

Dr. Grant taught me about story structure and arc and character development.

This podcast runs four and a half minutes.



Beauty in the Sanctuary

(November’s Artuality is still open. To participate, click here.)

The other day, I read Exodus 35-40. I wondered, "What does it look like to invite people to create something beautiful in the worship of God?" Here’s what I noticed:

1. The people pursued excellence in the creation of beauty. God chose two men, Bezalel and Oholiab, who were filled with the Holy Spirit and trained craftsmen, to lead up the work. (Interesting also how artistic excellence here results from both spirituality and artistic training.) When Moses called for materials and workers, the text talks about skilled persons dedicating themselves and fine materials that people brought (I’m guessing the jewelry and cloth they took from Egypt). So creating art and beauty for the worship of God demands excellence.

2. All were invited to participate. This seems to balance the above. While all pursued excellence and were guided by skilled persons (there seems to be a hierarchy of Bezalel in charge or the whole and other skilled workers in charge of laborers), Moses invited all of the people to be involved in creating a beautiful tabernacle for the worship of God.

3. The were detailed in their work. Exodus 35:11-19 lists the items they created with beauty. It basically lists everything involved in worship from the tabernacle itself to the utensils to the priestly garments. This went beyond what was pragmatic. Beauty was reflected in everything, or, another way to put it, they sought beauty in everything.

4. The people brought more than what was needed. In fact, Moses had to restrain them. Stop! he said. We have too much! The writing repeats this idea in a couple verses. There was more than enough. And this is just the "temporary" place of worship! When we invite people to participate, we will be overwhelmed with the results.

5. Moses dedicates the last five chapters of Exodus to the creation of the tabernacle and everything in it. When the people completed the work, the Lord filled the tabernacle–he resided with them. This made me realize how often the Lord’s presence is accompanied by creativity and beauty: the creation of the world (Genesis 1-2), the building of the tabernacle (Exodus 35-40), the building of the temple (1 Kings 7), and the re-creation and reconciliation of the world (Revelation 21-22). God’s presence is marked by excellence and beauty.

So those are my raw thoughts. What do you guys think?



Troubadouring

"Troubadours are more important and influential than theologians and bishops."
Brennan Manning, in Ragamuffin Gospel

There is the theology of art and theology in art.



Creation

"Every act of creation is first an act of destruction."
Pablo Picasso

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Artuality: Bullets Over Broadway

Today’s Artuality day! Our theme this month is movies. How have movies or a movie inspired you artistically or spiritually?

(For more explanation of Artuality, check out this post for more on this month’s theme or this one for the genesis of Artuality.)

For me, there are so many movies I can use to answer this question: how Chocolat inspired joyful living, how Hero portrayed sacrifice, the friendship and resurrection in Steel Magnolias, unconditional love in When Harry Met Sally, creation and creativity in Babette’s Feast, community in Rent, the list goes on.

But today, I want to tell you about a movie I saw last week: Bullets Over Broadway. It’s a Woody Allen movie, and it got me thinking about what it means to be an artist.

Of course, being a Woody Allen movie, part of the greatness lies in laughing at yourself. This movie is about a struggling theater writer who finally gets his big chance to produce a show. Of course, he demands to direct it so that some random director won’t mess it up. Fine, fine. But one thing: since the production’s being funded by the head mafia guy, it has to star his girlfriend. Who can’t act. Heck, she can’t even pronounce most of her words correctly. Oh, the frustrations! The impurity!

As the movie unfolds, we see that the play is really dribble. The story sucks. It doesn’t move. Finally, unable to keep his mouth shut any longer, the mafia hitman who’s been escorting the lovely mafia girlfriend, suggests a change. It’s wonderful! It’s exactly what the play needs! Everyone loves it!

Except, of course, the artist, the playwright.

The movie goes on, and the mafia hitman makes more and more suggestions. The playwright eventually recognizes the hitman’s brilliance and meets with him secretly to improve the play. By the end, the play’s a huge success. But it’s written by the hitman, not the playwright. In fact, the playwright, it turns out, isn’t an artist at all. And the hitman is. As the hitman’s artistry emerges, he can’t take the un-acting of the mafia girlfriend. So he kills her. And when he’s shot by the mafia don, his last words are about his play.

All nonsensical. Yet all true somehow. In the beginning of the movie, another playwright asks, if you’re in a burning building and you can either save a human or the last existing copies of Shakespeare’s plays, which would you choose? The rest of the movie answers this question. The main character (played by John Cusack) asks his girlfriend, do you love me as a man or as an artist? And he has to explore that question.

In some ways, it asks the same questions that Asher Lev asks: do artists have rights that other humans don’t? Are they ultimately responsible to humans or to art? What does it mean to be an artist? 

These questions have to do with the spiritual formation of an artist. How do we love artists as the church? In what ways do we hold them accountable both as artists and as humans? As an artist, how do I balance a demand for excellence with loving my neighbor as myself? Obviously, I’m not going to knock off someone when they get in the way of my art, but if my attitude toward them is disparaging, isn’t it the same thing? What is the posture of an artist?

Also, in this movie, art comes from unexpected places. Who would’ve thunk that a mafia hitman who didn’t finish high school would be a brilliant playwright? Who would’ve thunk that the playwright wasn’t an artist at all? I love this part. You never know where God’ll plant beauty. In that way, it shares a theme with Amadeus. 

You’re turn! Tell me on your blog about the movies that have influenced you then come back and let me know you’ve posted your entry. Oh, and when you use Mr. Linky, please leave a comment so I know a new link was left. Feel free to participate throughout the month of November whenever inspiration or epiphanies or apostraphes hit.



Art and Christianity: An Interview with Dr. Glenn Kreider, Part 4

This is the fourth and final part of my interview with Dr. Glenn
Kreider of Dallas Theological Seminary. In this conversation, we talk
about the importance of the physical redemption of the earth to our
theology of art.

This video runs under four minutes.



Art and Christianity: Interview with Dr. Glenn Kreider, Part 3

This is the third segment of my interview with Dr. Glenn Kreider,
professor at Dallas Theological Seminary, about art and Christianity.
In this part, we talk about facing the evilness in this world and
bringing in the hope of the day when God will set everything right.

And we talk for a moment about Sweeney Todd, my favorite musical!

The podcast runs under 6 minutes.

See Part One and Part Two



Art and Christianity: An Interview with Dr. Glenn Kreider, Part Two

This is the second part of my interview with Dr. Glenn Kreider, a professor at Dallas Theological Seminary. The interview is about beauty and sentimentality, and this segment looks specifically at the cross and resurrection.

The video runs about 5 minutes.

Related quotes from "Beauty, Sentimentality, and the Arts," an essay by Jeremy Begbie in The Beauty of God: Theology and the Arts:

"In a nutshell, Christian sentimentalism arises from a premature grasp for Easter morning, a refusal to follow the three days of Easter as three days in an irreversible sequence of victory over evil" (p. 61).

"Easter does of course throw its light on the ‘renting’ of Friday (to use Yeats’s word), but not a soothing glow so much as a white light that exposes the rupture between Creator and creature, the depths to which the human creature has sunk and the depths to which God’s love is prepared to reach" (p. 62).

"This is emphatically not to say that the crucifixion as an event of torture and death is really beautiful and not ugly, if only we would change our perspective. That would be gross sentimentality (and, of course, opens the door to sadism or sadomasochism). But it is to say that in and through this particular torture, crucifixion and death, God’s love is displayed at its most potent" (p.63).

You can see part one of the interview here.